The Greatest American Tragedy
Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2008
by Jennifer Cuddy
I'm ashamed to be an American. I'm ashamed that close to 50% of the people in this country would - when given the opportunity to vote for a man of peace -would vote otherwise. In fact, being ashamed is too kind a word for it. The truth is that I am terrified of these people. Barak Obama has spent his entire career working to better the living conditions of those who live in poverty. He has worked to promote civil rights and human rights. And yet, these "people" look for ways to distort these activities, and seek to manipulate good into bad. These people will vote against a man who wants to promote healthcare for all and reduce educational costs. They will vote against a man who proposes a plan to back out of the war in Iraq, who seeks to increase diplomacy and peace by direct confrontations rather than avoidance, sanctions, and war. These people want to vote against a man who wants to reduce our trade deficit by employing new trade policies and fighting against outdated policies that grant foriegn countries billions of dollars in rebates every year. A man who has enough integrity, to refuse to be bought by greedy corporate giants by promising them tax cuts in the name of " stimulating the economy." We've all heard this before, and we should all know by now what a lie it is.
I fear for the safety of Americans not only at home, but abroad if John McCain is voted in as president. John McCain, a man who wants to continue and increase our military presence in Iraq, and wants to eliminate Shiia and Sunni populations throughout the Middle East. A statement which is a very dangerous declaration of war against all Muslim countries.
I fear a man who wants to freeze all government funded programs and spending, ( except for military and veterans, of course ) for one year to evaluate their efficacy; for what will this accomplish other than attacking those dependent on such programs for survival? In fact, isn't John McCain's salary funded by the federal government? How about we start with that income, eh? Or better yet, why not make that test population exclusive to those who voted for you? I think that's only fair, don't you?
I fear a man will reduce corporate tax from 35% to 25%, which will inevitably make the rich even richer, and reduce billionaire's tax burdens to a level comparable to my own - and he calls this fair?
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Top-level comments on this article: (7 total)Hi Jennifer, you amaze me. First I will start by saying this is well written article--you express yourself well, for that I applaud you. Secondly I respect your opinion on why you want to vote for Obama, what a prilege we have in this country.I have sat back for a long time and remained silent at all your articles that ridicule and demean people who have a different opinion than you. You use strong words of hatred and you have no tolerance for people who oppose you. It strikes me as ironic because you have such a strong desire for peace. I have to wonder if Mr. Obama would approve of your tactics. You are no different than those Christians who are demeaning liberal thinkers.I am responding to this article for all of the above and one final reason and that is to say that do you really believe that making abortion illegal is going to, as you put it, "will be the inevitable increase in poverty, increase in child abuse, neglect, and abandonment; the difficult, discriminatory plight of unwed mothers, the increase in domestic violence and the overall crime that would ensue when women are no longer given the option to make their own decisions. " Wow! You give abortion alot of credit. I cannot believe that someone as intelligent as yourself thinks this way, but I won't call you what you have called people like me lately.Instead, I will ask you one question. Have you had an abortion? Do you know the physical and emotional turmoil that follows a women who does? have you heard the sound of the vacuum sucking the life out of you? If you have and you still feel that a women should be able to kill her child just because she happened to get pregnant and she has no husband to help her, then I might be more apt to listen to you. Maybe you should share personal reasons why it should remain legal. And for the record, Obama is not all the man you lift him up to be. He doesn't even stand firm in what he confesses to believe. But I am not here to try and change your mind.You assume Christians are not intellectual, I know you are an educated woman, you share that with us often, but what you seem to be lacking is a heart of compassion that will allow others the same freedom to think differently as you desire, which is what this country stands for. I'm sorry you are ashamed to be an American, because with all its imperfections, it is still the greatest country to live in.I would humbly ask that you take your own advice--if you truly want peace, I would sugest starting with yourself and change the way you speak of other people. If people cannot peacefully disagree here on SW, How is Obama being president going to change that? Are you saying that if he is president, you will start being nicer and quit calling Christians names?Peace to you.Well, if you are a Christian, then this article does not pertain to you. My allegations are directed to those who proclaim to be Christians, but promote discrimination. It is my opinion that discrimination promotes hatred and bigotry, and bigotry is anti Christian.Frankly, I'm sick and tired of all of the anti-Obama propaganda out there, and this article is a response to that type of campaigning.I believe that I have stated my reasons why abortion should remain legal. If you don't believe in the consequences that I predict will occur if this law is changed, that is your right. I myself, have not had an abortion, and would not choose to have an abortion. But I do not think it wise to make it illegal, regardless.This article is pro Obama, because I sincerely believe that he is a good man, and the best chance that this country has to employ some changes for the better of all mankind. And I am disappointed in people who disagree.I've never written anything in any of my articles that refer to my educational background.Many authors have written articles in support of John McCain. That is their right.I don't ridicule or demean people, I just state what I have observed and believe to be fact. You can agree or disagree and write your own articles in support of your beliefs. I don't prevent you from doing so.I believe many true Christians are genuinely good people, but when it comes to the matter of discrimination, I strongly disagree.If you look on the internet, or even in various articles written here on SW, you will find a great deal of anti-Obama, and sometimes, borderline racist articles. Why can't I an write an article in disagreement? It isn't me claiming that Obama is a Muslim ( which is racist ), or a socialist, or attempting to expose allegations or conspiracy theories that are anti-McCain. I am simply against his policies.Hi Jennifer, I think that's great if you want to write a pro-obama article, but the problem is you insinuate that those who are not pro obama are unintelligent and that is wrong. You have called Christians dilusional--if that is not demeaning, I don't know what is.I think anti-Obama articles are fine to write as well as anti-McCain, the problem is when people don't stick to what they perceive as facts and start making personal attacks on people who disagree. This is what I am referring to.As far as Abortion, why is it so bad that I want it to be illegal? My motives are from a heart of love--I don't want girls to have to suffer the consequences. How does that make me discriminatory or promote hatred? How about safe sex, better yet, no sex til married. If the only women having abortions are those who were raped or molested, the numbers would drop dramitically. But the problem is that it is used as a form of birth control and that is wrong. The other problem with legalized abortion is that the clinic workers lie to these young girls and women. They don't tell you that you can hear your baby's heartbeat at 11 weeks. Most abortions are done at 12 wks or more. Parents do not have to know if their child is having an abortion. This is a medical procedure and if you want to keep morality out of it, fine. But why is it that my son will not be cared for if he is in an accident unless I am there to sign papers, yet my daughter can have a life changing procedure done and no one has to know?There are many reasons that abortion should be illegal. But that is my opinion.I know we will never see eye to eye, but maybe if you did some research and interviewed many women who have had abortions, you might come to understand why Christians are not being mean or discriminatory, they are acting out of a heart of love and concern for the women and the unborn child.Like I mentioned there is extreem intolerance for personal opinion on each side, I don't understand your disapointment in people who disagree. It doesn't make sense. I am not disappointed in you because you feel its okay to murder an unborn child, why should you be disappointed in me because I do not think it is okay to murder an unborn child? Where is your tolerance?And just so you understand, I am not proud of the Christians who have gone to the extreem and called people like you out of touch with reality. Most people cross lines when they are passionate about something, Christian or not. Standing firm on what the Bible teaches will cause division, there is no getting around that. Jesus promised it would as it did in his time, but there is a way to be at peace while being divided. Peace does not mean being 100% in agreement 100% of the time, it means being rational and agreeing to disagree.Obama and his camp are just as guilty as McCain and his camp of mudslinging. I do hope you can admit that--I have heard and seen commericals where Obama says "I approve this message" and it is shots at McCain with mis-quotes and things taken out of context. He is just as guilty.Anyway, thanks for listening, I do hope you can open your heart just a bit to at least try to understand another perspective.Well, I can understand your stance on abortion. I personally only know of two women who have had abortions, one of who had one when she was 15 at 6 weeks, and one who had one at 4 months at age 35! Now, the one who had one at 4 months, I personally find disgusting. It took two days to have her abortion. And this girl, not but 2 months after receiving her abortion, went on to search for a new boyfriend on a match site! Honestly, I stopped my friendship with her after that. But what a horrible mother would this girl be?As I have said, I would not have an abortion, as I personally could not live with myself after it, but I fear for the implications that might arise if this were illegal. To think that even with the legality of abortion, we would still find newborns in trash cans is horrid. But what if making it illegal would increase poverty? what if it does increase domestic violence? Increased poverty most certainly increases violence and crime.And you jump to conclusions by saying that i think it is ok to murder an unborn child. I never said that. If this were a cut and dry issue, then physicians who perform abortions would be guilty of murder, but by law they are not, and so obviously the concept is up to opinion. It isn't a me- thing.But again, please do not misunderstand me. I am pro life myself. I'm just not sure that making it illegal will be beneficial or harmful to society.As far as your daughter, whom I am assuming is a minor, having an abortion without your knowledge..as far as I know, that is illegal. For if it isn't, then I agree with you in that it certainly should be.My point on discrimination was not on abortion, but on gay rights.But let me ask you this..if abortion is murder, then why make it ok for those who have been raped? If it's murder, it's murder, right?In afterthought, I'm glad that Ive written this article, and I'm glad to hear your opinion. Perhaps, I'll change my mind. I admit, it has always been a stickler for me as far as Obama's being pro choice, and especially for partial birth abortions. My thought is that the Roe vs Wade decision would most likely not be overturned anyway, so it seemed to be a moot point.Perhaps, I'm wrong. I apologise for overstating and by doing so, be misunderstood.I am not disappointed in you on the abortion issue, I'm disappointed that people don't take into account the good things that Obama has dedicated his life to. And I also think that many of McCain's policies are scary, and are only going to increase the gap between rich and poor, and most certainly, I think he is a threat to foreign policy. I truly am afraid for the safety of Americans at home and abroad if McCain is elected. I think he is going to incite worlwide hatred of Americans, and increase the threat of terrorism by infuriating the entire Muslim community.Hi Jennifer, thank you for hearing me out and responding with kindness. I am sorry I assumed you thought it was ok to murder, my point is abortion is murder whether it is legal or not. And I do not think it should be okay for rape victims either.I respect your fear, and in your response here, you made your point without a mean tone in your voice. Ultimately, that was all I was trying to say. We can share our thoughts in a manner that does not demean others, and maybe it wasn't your intent, but that is how it came across.And thought we obviously disagree in big areas, I admire your passion, I too am a passionate person. I think the key is keeping ourselves in check when we share our opinions.And I am glad you can admit some of Obama's shortcomings, as I acknowledge, adn always have acknowledged mccains and the other guys running as well. NO one is perfect and noone will get it 100% right. But it would be wrong if we as individuals did not vote our conscience.Thanks again for receiving another perspective on the issue.
When I refer to Christians who are clearly not, I am referring to those types who protest in anti-gay marches with statements such as : "Death to all Gays!" or "AIDS is a punishment from God, you deserve it!" or other statements to that effect that I have seen. And these people have their kids by their sides!Wouldn't you agree that this kind of thing promotes hate and violence?I personally know of people who profess to be Christians, but wouldn't vote for Obama because he is black! I mean, even the KKK proclaims themselves to be Christians.I use examples involving Christianity, because of all of the faiths, true Christianity is a religion of love, forgiveness and peace, and cares for the poor.Hi Jennifer, it helps that you clarified who your are referring to.I agree that it is wrong to protest with hate slogans and signs and everything you mentioned. And yes, even the KKK proclaims they are Christians, in this we are in total agreement.True Christianity is a religion of love, repentance, forgiveness , and peace. True Biblical Christianity follows the teaching of God, Jesus and the apostles, without treating those who do not badly. And it is a shame that many who claim the name of Christ do such things. However, God is holy and Just and he does have a standard for those who claim to believe in him to follow. There standards are set up to protect because He does not want anyone to suffer the pain of the consequence of sin. So a Christian--true God loving, people loving Christian, will make a standard for God's commandments and that will go against the grain more often than not. The Balance, I believe, is this: God says that homosexuality is a sin, a forgiveable sin if one repents, but that does not give me license to go and protest gays. If they are not claiming to follow God and His ways, I have no business trying to tell them otherwise. I will however, love them and minister to them, should they ask and I have friends and family who are gay. We have a peaceful and respectful relationship.To bring further clarity, it is also sin to gossip, lie, cheat, steal and have a prideful and arrogant attitude. Now this is something more people can relate to.And thank God there is forgiveness with him and when I say, Go, I am sorry for my sin, and for hurting others with my words--or whatever the case may be, I am forgiven! God is a merciful God, but we cannot forget that he is also holy.I am not here to say you are anyone has to believe it, but I am here to explain and help someone who is curious.Again, thanks for clarifying.
Also, there are many of heterosexuals out there who engage in perversive acts, and are highly promiscuious, whereas there are alot of gays who are very monogomous. Are the promiscious heterosexuals more moral? I work with many gay nurse and doctors alike, who are wonderful people. I would rather they marry and make commitments than go about being promiscious. I also believe that some gays are indeed born gay. I've known too many kids who are too obviously gay from the start. Should they be forced to live their lives in solitude, filled with self hatred for an oddity that they were born and reared to have? I think it is more humane that they find happiness with a partner, as they most certainly will never attract a heterosexual mate. They have a right to be happy. And they are a population in this country that won't just go way. Why not just accept them for who they are, and let them be?No, Hetrosexuals who are pervesive and highly promiscuious are not more moral, that behavior is not moral at all. It is sinful behavior. It is just as sinful as sex before marriage, gossip, hatred, arrogance, murder, rape, pornagraphy, etc... Obviously, some sin has higher consequences than others. It all goes back to the result of these behaviors, this is what the God of love wants to protect us from.Bottom line Jennifer, is that it's a heart problem, not a law problem. When people chose to repent and allow God to change their hearts, they sin less and the law wouldn't really matter so much. The world is full of sin and that is why it ultimately doesn't matter who is president, because none of the canditates have the power to change hearts.When abortion became legal, it did not reduce the amount of rapists that are out on the streets, and it didn't reduce domestic violence, what it did do, is give an appearance of an easy out and promiscuity rose steadily.Well, I do agree with that. I do think it has given many women an easy way out, and relinquished the accountability of their actions. I have thought about this too. I often wonder why women would choose abortion over placing their child up for adoption. But personally, I couldn't live with myself either way.Perhaps I really don't know any real Christians. All I see of them is what i see in documentaries such as "Jesus Camp" or other documentaries where they are shown with posters displaying as I'd mentioned above.I was brought up a Catholic, but i would hardly say my parents really instilled any "love of christ" or anything. It was just something we were dragged into doing every Sunday ( going to church, that is) and meant very little beyond that. My parents were always friends with various priests, but also politicians, physicians, etc..and would frequently have or go to dinner parties. But I think their conversations revolved more around art and classical music, food and wine than anything religious.Hi Jennifer, I do believe this has turned into a productive conversation--peaceful too :-)I think you said it right--your perception of Christians has been distorted because of your experience and I can't blame you for that. We do have the media to thank in large part for that, they don't like to talk about the healthly-God following churches out there, that is boring. Instead that want to plaster Jesus Camp all over the tv so that non-christians will think this is how we are and that is not the whole truth.Those people are radicals and not Christ-like at all. I do not condone their actions, what they are teaching their children is not biblical in any sense or measure.I do hope that you can begin to see that their are true Christians who love God and people and desire to live as God calls them to. That means calling sin-sin and turning away from it. It means sharing the truth about God when people want to hear it, not shoving it down their throat.In many ways, your experience has caused you to have a radical viewpoint, just as those people do--and I don't say that to be mean. I say t because I was there once. Maybe if you read my article "how to be a successful ineffective witness for Christ" you might understand what I mean.Thank you for opening up, I wondered if this was the case because of the frustration that bleeds through when you speak of Christians. In reality you are speaking of false witnesses for Christ. I do hope that our conversation will restore a bit of faith in you and perhaps soften your heart toward Christians and judge them as individuals and not lump them into one big group.Maybe you could start with me--I would love to answer any questions you have regarding true/false Christianity. Not that I am an expert, but I do have 20 years experience, maybe it counts for something.You said you often wonder why women would choose abortion--I'll tell you. Because we are told that it is just tissue, not a baby, we are made to feel guilty that we can't possiblly be a good mom. We are told its no big deal and we are not told that what is happening is that the "tissue" will be sucked out of you with a vacuum cleaner--imagine putting a powerful vacuum up to your eye ball and then having to feel it being sucked out of its socket. That is why.Secondly, it is true that a young girl can have an abortion without her parents knowing. My mom wasn't there with me holding my hand--in fact none of the girls in the office had their moms there.This is one of the many problems with legalized abortion. At the very least, laws should be changed and true information and other alternatives should be made available. Did you know they don't even counsel you when you are done about practicing safe sex, or even better tell you to wait until you are ready to be a parent?Again, I understand your fears,, but shouldn't the example I have shared tear at your heartstrings as well? I don't agree, but I am willing to conceed that McCain should shoot for changing laws instead of overturning Roe vs Wade, but Obama has not mentioned anything about changing the laws surrounding this issue because he thinks its okay the way it is and goes as far as to believe in partial-birth abortion. To me, this is scary, very, very scary.So glad we had this conversation. And I do pray it has given you a broader understanding of where me and other Christians like me are coming from. God be with you.Yes, you have succeeded in opening my mind quite a bit. As i admit, I know very little about Christian groups other than what i see under the subject: fanaticism.But also, i do think it is unfortunate that many women are forced to carry the entire burden of parenting, while men get off virtually scott-free. i think this is largely the number one reason why women insist that this is their individual decision, and their bodies. Too many women are stuck holding the entire bag.And yes, most likely my upbringing has colored my opinions and attitudes. We went through all of the motions of being catholics, but when we got home, most of it went right out the window, and my parents fought more often than not throughout my childhood.I don't know..I could be wrong on many issues. But it seems to me that Obama has spent the majority of his career involved in philanthropy, and that should speak for him. For example, as a man who did graduate magna Cum laude from harvard law school, he could have chosen to join in with any of the more lucrative law firms in the country, but he did not.Note that partial birth abortions are legal. I think it's awful too, as i've mentioned above in the example of the girl i knew that had one, and then proceeded to look for a new boyfriend not but 2 months after! How sick is that?Sex education and the promotion of abstinance and even the witholding of sex before marriage has been around for a long time, I'm just convinced that this approach has been working. i think it should go further than that, and we should put an end to violent video games, and stop promoting such magazines as Glamour and Madamoiselle and all of the other fashion magazine that promote women as being sex objects, and post articles on such things as "how to drive your guy wild in bed" and all sorts of articles that promote and place enormous pressure on young girls to behave in manners that revolve around sex not as love. I think it is these magazines and the behaviours of young celebrities that have the most effect on young peoples minds than anything. It is a very lucrative business, these 'sex sells' industries. i don't think that behaviours will ever change until there is some level of accountability given to these media forms. this influences men's and young men's behaviours towards women as well. There is enormous pressure on women to be physically sexual and attractive, but not much more.I agree that morality has gone down the bucket, but disagree with Terry that this is coming from the Europeans. I think that this is most certainly coming from the American media. if you look at many of the imported films, their actors and actresses are noteably imperfect physically, and there is a great deal of emphasis away from this relentless pursuit of physical perfection, and the glorification of it, that is most predominate in the American film industry; not the European film industry.Geez, maybe I am a closet Christian after all??ops, that should have read " I'm just not convinced that this approach has been working."Hi again.I agree with everything you said about society's promotion of free sex etc... I agree that men get off way to easy at times, but I still think it goes back to morality. If single women refrained from premarital sex, they wouldn't have to worry about the possiblity of raising a child alone and to use abortion as a way out, is sad. It's not the childs fault.But anyway, I think we have said enough on this issue.I am sorry for your ill upbringing regarding religion. And I think that deep inside of you is a person who would like to believe that God is good and that it wouldn't be so bad to be a Christ-follower. Its just that you have lacked a good experience. I believe with your passion you could change your corner of the world with the message of grace and the Gospel of Jesus Christ. All it takes is the willingness to put all those bad examples behind you and give Jesus an honest try. Only he can wipe away the hurts, bitterness and anger you carry from your childhood. And believe me, its an awesome feeling to have those things melt away so that you can feel the peace of God in your heart. I will never regret diving into Jesus. I had a rough childhood, my parents divorced when I was just a little kid. I have seen abuse, my mom and us kids have been on the run, having to hide in hotels from crazy people (not my dad), believe me, I have plenty reasons to be bitter and skeptical--and I was. But then I experienced the love of God by simply (and not so simply) giving him a chance to how me the real him. By reading his word and finding good solid Christians, it made all the difference in the world.Do your self a favor, anytime you want to know about Christianity, don't go the "fanaticism" section :-)One final thought--true biblical christianity is not a religion at all--it is a previlege that we have through faith in Jesus Christ to have a personal relationship with the Creator of the universe. It's not about following a set of rules, its about letting God change our hearts and serving him out of gratitude for what He has done by sending His Son to pay the price for our sin. No one is free from sin, everyone will have to answer to God, but through faith, there is fogiveness and covering so that we do not have to fear judgement day.Okay, I am done preaching :-)Thanks again for a great conversation. My ears are always open. Hugs,TeresaThank you Teresa, for all of your time and effort spent on trying to change the way I behave and think. What religion do you belong to might I ask? My uncle is a Christadelphian, but if you don't believe in what he believes he will practically disown you.Other Christians that I have befreinded, wound up wanting me to join them in a threesome, and then when I proclaimed my disinterest, the girl started blaming me for interfering with their marriage? huh??I have one sister, who truly is a true Christian, and they have been missionaries, and very poor most of their lives with their five children, and yet, they are always provided for in hard times, just in the knick of time. They are both also very well educated, and are extremely easy going people to talk too. I had alsways loved visiting them when I lived in Minnesota, and they lived in Chicago, but then moved way. I was very saddened when they did. they are very devout people, who never had a television when they brought up their kids, but took them incessantly to the library instead.My only problem with them, back then, was that the husband had worked as a printer for their organised religion, but offered them no benefits. Yet, whenever they needed money to pay for healthcare costs, the money would be sent to them for an anonymous source. They also believe and tell me time and time again to trust "in the lord" and that I will be filled with joy. There must be something to it, because too many people claim the same thing. At that time, I was studying Judaism, and it was hard for me to relate.I think that because I was brought up a Catholic and have grown to associate spirituality with Grand cathedrals with stain glassed windows, Bach, ash and incense and Latin masses, that I feel that I need those added aesthetics in order to feel God's presence. for example, I just can't feel anything when I go to churches that have guitars playing and sing alongs, waving their hands about, etc..It all seems...I don't know..awkwardlike being in a foreign country.
Michelle Obama, is that you? All kidding aside, Jennifer, how can you say you are ashamed of being an American? As for the rest of your article, I can only say that I agree with everything Teresa has already said. She is spot-on. She is a good example of a Christian who will hopefully one day change your mind about Christians in general.maybe so..maybe so..but please do read my above comment posted regarding the American media.Hey, Jennifer, I have a confession to make. I also like European movies better than American movies. There are a lot more European movies in my Netflix queue than there are American movies. It's partly because of the imperfections thing that you talked about, but it's also because American actors and actresses have become too spoiled and act too much like prima donnas. European actors and actresses are much more honest, courageous, and daring. Also, American movies tend to be a lot more formulaic and politically correct than European movies. American film-makers seem to be more interested in profits than art, so they tend to make their movies for the masses.yeah, but i think it very sick the amount of television shows out there that all promote this "sex sells" and feed into "voyeurism", which seems to be the new all American favourite pastime
I really do think that it is the media and the film industry that is destroying the morality of society. That's why I don't have cable. I only have netflix.I have cable, but I only watch the news and sports channels. I can't do without my CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, ESPN, and ESPN2. I don't watch that poop on the so-called entertainment channels though. In fact, I have an upcoming article on this very subject called "Must-Offend TV." Even the The Learning Channel has gone to the dogs. I think women have to have big boobs and show lots of cleavage to get on there nowadays. It makes me wonder what they're wanting us to learn. :-)I also agree that the pressure the American media puts on women and girls to be perfect and slim is ridiculous. In fact, it's dangerous and it's killing many of them. And the sexualization of women and girls is atrocious, too, as you said. I even see girls as young as 6 dressed provocatively these days -- and their parents don't seem to have a problem with it!Women need to stand up and say enough is enough, we do not need to be perfect and we are not sex objects. Until that happens, however, nothing is going to change. I can't speak for all men, of course, but I believe the most attractive women are those who have imperfect bodies and do not kowtow to the sexualization expectation of American society. Just my two cents worth.Yeah, and did you know that there are websites out there that teach young men how to manipulate women into going to bed with them?Personally, I think that most - if not all women, really do want love, and will do whatever it takes to receive it, even if it is false. People are taught that men and women are so different on the subject, and that men have no problem having sex with a woman without any emotion whatsoever. But women don't want to believe that. I don't think that any woman can have sex without emotional envolvement, but shows like Sex and the City totally promote it, but it is a lie! And all it does is get women hurt.I believe that women who wind up time and time again in abusive relationships, do so because they are searching for an apology from that original man who hurt them. They want their self esteems back, and subconsciously believe that only a man ( or having a man) can make them feel OK . But men are reared to be abusive to women. And with the aid of the media pressure, this continues to be a vicous cycle.
I also think it's sick that these people are making so much money, when there is very little social utility in what they do. I mean, even that daughter of Hulk Hogan has her own show?
Jennifer,I have read through this thread and all i will say as a friend that has known you all your life is run, run away from this twisted right wing Christian site. I will tell you as a friend never trust one that try to sell a faith on you, they generally are not the type of people you want to have as your legacy. I know thet will guilt and quote the bible, speak of murder and jeasus; they act as it is is fact as well as absolute. You will never win an argument with them because they do not hear you and of what you speak.Jennifer they will slam me and question me for this but you are to good to waste your time at this blog.Jim, you know, you are exactly right. We are nothing but a bunch of twisted right-wing Christians who are out to proselytize the world and lay guilt trips on everyone who doesn't see things our way. Thanks for pointing that out. We would never have figured it out if it wasn't for your shrewd observation skills. Again, we appreciate your sharing it with us.Now, who says you can't win an argument with us?Jimmy, what you didn't see was a paragraph on the bottom that I had removed that had offended Teresa.
So you censured your work because it offended someone? You should back your point up defend it but do not censure your work. I am sure the nut job will get over it.I rather believe that Jennifer was being kind, and should be commended. We could all stand to be a little more kind these days.Hi Jim, I am the nut case you are refering to and I would just like to take moment to thank you for being such a good friend to Jennifer. I know you only have her best interest at heart and I love it when my friends stick up for me that way too! We all need friends like this.However, if you read carefully, you will see that Jennifer and me came to a understanding that worked out just fine.I hadn't even noticed that Jennifer changed her article. I think that speaks well of her character. I didn't ask her to do that, nor did I try to make her feel guilty, I just questioned her reasoning. I think that also speaks to the kindness in her heart.You are blessed to have a friend like her.Thanks for sticking up for her--but she is a strong girl and I don't think anyone could change her mind unless she thought it needed changing.Lord bless you.
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